Exploring Vulnerability, Creativity and Community Through Film
- Kim Meninger
- 5 hours ago
- 24 min read

In this episode of The Impostor Syndrome Files, we explore what it takes to express yourself fully and create spaces where people feel safe to be seen. My guest this week is Rayviation, a documentary filmmaker and creative who blends storytelling, comedy and immersive experiences into what he calls “media mixology.”
Rayviation shares his journey into creative work and the vulnerability that comes with putting your ideas into the world. We talk about his documentary Loving Men, which brings together men and nonbinary participants in a facilitated circle to explore love, emotional expression and the barriers that get in the way.
In our conversation, we discuss what happens when people feel safe enough to be honest, how shared experiences can shift our understanding of masculinity and why community plays such a critical role in helping us grow. Rayviation also shares simple but powerful ways to create more meaningful connection, including making space for disagreement and showing up with intention.
About My Guest
Rysam Donkoh-Halm, professionally known as Rayviation, is a Chicago-based video producer, editor, and creative strategist specializing in documentary storytelling and branded content. Often describing himself as a “media mixologist,” he blends production, post-production, and marketing strategy to craft compelling visual narratives that resonate with audiences and drive meaningful engagement. His work supports brands, marketing agencies, mission-driven organizations, and production companies seeking to communicate with clarity, authenticity, and impact.
With a background rooted in both film and community-driven storytelling, Raysam has contributed to projects exploring social, economic, and mental health themes, including Days of Division, The Cookie Referendum, and the feature documentary Loving Men. In addition to his creative work, he is committed to using media as a tool for connection and education, bringing both artistic perspective and strategic insight to every collaboration.
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Transcript
Kim Meninger
Welcome, Rayviation. It is so wonderful to have you here today. I'm excited to jump in, and I'd love to start by inviting you to tell us a little bit about yourself.
Rayviation
Kim, it is an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you for inviting me on the podcast. A little bit about me. I am a documentary and comedy filmmaker, originally from Lowell, Massachusetts. However, I currently find myself here in Chicago, Illinois. I truly, truly, truly love the environment, truly love the, the city, the people, the food. It's amazing and within all of this and really like being able to step into my artist persona of radiation, I've really come down to a couple of things within myself, right? Like that's really taking the producer side of my brain, the editor side of my brain, the marketing consultant part of my brain, and really wrapping that up all together, and then calling it into a new sort of practice that I like to call media mixology.
Kim Meninger
Oh, I like that. And I'm curious, because anything creative can come bring with it some vulnerability too, right? Because you're putting yourself out into the world in a very big way. And I wonder, how does it feel for you? You know, when you, you mentioned comedian, and in particular that, that, to me, feels like the scariest thing in the world to try to be funny.
Rayviation
Yes, it's, it truly is a, it's a challenge. It's a skill. You know what? I mean? It's a muscle that people definitely train more on. I feel like I have, like, the most, like ideal sort of like, funny bone within me, where, of course, like, I want to make people laugh, but my immigrant upbringing, like, also prevents me from being too distracting from class and whatnot. So doing something in a way where I'm like, yeah, the students are laughing, the kids are laughing, and then that's all well and good, but it's actually funny that you mentioned that in terms of the comedy work, because the latest comedy project that I put out there was a play that I had actually written and gotten produced back in Lowell called the cookie referendum. And that one was a very funny, immersive satire play about the middle school having a very contentious election, and the electorate essentially caught in the middle of it. And it was about this like issue about how cookies are distributed in the school, right? And I think that there was just, like, so many things between, like both of those characters who were playing the leads, along with like the actors that we also had played within the audience as well. And there is something maybe a little twisted, maybe a little sick, but I promise I use it for good, about the level of control that you can also, like, plant within something and then just allowing for spontaneity at the same time, right? Because there was a section in that play where we were just like, hey, yes, there was going to be a debate between these two candidates and their platforms and how they were going to go about things, but also audience. Now that we have all stepped into this middle school auditorium, we can also ask them questions as well. So there was also, like, an improv nature to the play too. So like the students who, again, were first time actors who were amazing, truly shout out to them wherever they are. It allowed for, like, those, like really funny moments, for people to be like, well, well, I actually have something to say. And it was just so, so great when it wasn't just the people on stage being in front of you is truly everybody, just like really leaning into the absurdity of it. So satire, I'm a real big fan of satire, and I feel like it also plays out into my documentary work too.
Kim Meninger
I love that I mean, and I love the collective nature of how you're describing it, too, because it takes some of the pressure off you being the only one performing, right? There's a collaborative element to it, which I would think would make it more fun and also less scary.
Rayviation
Well, I will say like the scariness still comes in Kim, right? And the scariness comes in when you're relinquishing control over your narrative and really letting your thing play out there. Because another part of this that was sort of unexpected for me, right? And I feel like this is like a thing that any artist, creative, anybody who just works in a market or an industry where you're putting your own product out there, something you work really hard on, and this and that, and now all of a sudden they're using people. People will take and be like, Oh, wow. Fight Club is about how we should actually just start, like, beating each other up as men and this and that, and it's just like, No, you're missing the entire other point in this actor. And they were like, nope, the imagery was cool. Like, this is what we got to do. Boom. So I felt a little bit about that in my play when I saw how they were reacting to one candidate versus the other. And it was, it was a thing where I was just like, Okay, this is how we got to where we are in this country, like, like, the way that we are doing politics in this way, like, creates madness in a petri dish. And I was just trying to have fun with cookies.
Kim Meninger
So funny. Yeah, that's so interesting. And all comes down to sort of the, the. Human psychology of it all. Have you always done this?
Rayviation
Hmm, this is in playwriting, filmmaking, creative?
Kim Meninger
Creative space, like have you always done? Has that always been your, your career path?
Rayviation
Yeah, yeah, I would say so. I think from a very young age I was always, I think it was actually funny when my father came to visit me in Chicago for the first time and was meeting my girlfriend, Aria, who is an amazing theater actress in her own way, was asking me, like, oh, like, what was Ray Sam like, as a kid, right? And my dad said he watched a lot of TV, and I think that, like that the Barney is a gateway drug for me, right? So I've always done that. Has always been interested with camera work. Especially, I feel like it really got solidified when I was able to attend my high school, which was Nashville Valley Technical High School in Westford, Massachusetts, and they had a TV media program there, and it was really the thing that helped me get out of my shell, get out of, like, my comfort zone, in that way, because there is, there's so many things that were just so different from, like, my initial upbringing, coming from Lowell, and now being in, like, the Westford school system, and having people be like, Oh, you're the first black person I've ever met, and like, you're this and that. And like, oh, like, what do you do? Like, I'm assuming that you're into this, and I'm like, No. Like, not at all, if anything. And I feel like, for me, going through that TV media program, where it was both TV media and theater arts, right? So it was something where I'm like, okay, like, not only do I know how to edit a really good documentary, but I also can play seaweed in the play. And not only that, I know how the sets are actually built, like, what actually goes into how the sausage is made of production. Because, again, like, there's so much to live production, especially that just, again, that whole, anything that can go wrong will go wrong thing. Like, sometimes you just got to, just like, throw that out of the mind and just persist and do something great live. So I have an immense respect for anybody who does anything live, and that's, that's not just on stage. I'm a, if you are a chef, if you are a waiter, if you're doing all these kind of things. Like, that's all live presentation. Like, there is no, like, real script that you can lean on that's always going to be 100% tried and true. So that's, that's how I like think about that.
Kim Meninger
Yeah. And just as an aside, I live in Groton, so we were practically neighbors.
Rayviation
Yeah, there is, yep, that's so great. I was, I was actually just in Groton this past November, actually.
Kim Meninger
Hey, oh, that's so funny. And Chicago is one of my favorite cities. We were just there last year.
Rayviation
Oh, that's fun.
Kim Meninger
Well, I want to talk about your documentary, because I think that thing I've been really, really interested in learning more about how you got there, right? Like, what was the I want to sort of introduce the audience into the inspiration behind it, what it was like to do it. So start wherever you're most comfortable in telling us more about that.
Rayviation
Sure, sure. So I would essentially start as all as all stories start like, during the pandemic, right? And that was a period of time where, you know, we were all looking to try to connect with people inside. We're trying to, like, keep like, certain creative sparks alive, while also like dealing with, of course, tragedy and loss and like, really trying to, like, stay safe together, not just as families, but as communities and all these things. And one of the, the, the organizations that I ended up like doing a short film community, like Film Club. Thing was the Boston Ujima project. And the more I looked into that particular organization, about like them, trying to build solidarity economies within Boston's communities and really invest in other like funds, community investments, restaurants, grocery stores, other community initiatives that are a lot like less like tangible in the way that you go and swipe a debit card, and more in the way that how you hold your neighbors, right? So that was initially how the organization that we partnered and did the loving men documentary with came on my radar, because a couple of years later, once like, you know, the lockdowns and whatnot, started to ease up, I was contacted with by James Van boy, who is one of the heads over at the Boston new dreamer project, and said, like, Hey, Raysam, like, I remember that you did documentary work. Like, your short film was really fun. We also have, like, a I have a friend of mine, Jordan Mudd, who we just want to pitch this documentary project to you talking about masculinity circles, right? And like these, like sort of community support circles. And they'd asked me if I was familiar with it, and thankfully, I would say, like yes, because I was also doing prior work with the Center for Hope and Healing based over in Lowell and some of their initiatives around how we can build a healthier masculinity and, like, what are the some of the things that go into that, and how we also can, like, step away from things such as, like, domestic violence and abuse and other things around that nature too. So of course, like, I was, like, familiar with the, the subject how these circles essentially play out, but I've never actually participated in one myself. And they essentially said, okay, like, if you're okay with blending your skills as being a producer and editor on this project, while Jordan is the one that directs, we want you to essentially assemble a crew here. We have this much in the budget here. By no means was it a million dollars. We didn't even need it to come away with such an amazing, amazing film. And I'm not just saying that because I spent a lot of time putting it together, but it was great, because they in within, like, their own community and own personal circles. Knew of other people who were running their own circles, right? Whether it was centered around a book, like, All About Love by Bell Hooks, or centered around like, the idea of, like, how can we become better uncles, right? How can we actually offer community care and overlooking like young ones and all these kind of things that people usually like? Okay, well, man, that's hands up. No, that's your work. This, this and that. And ultimately, we gathered 11 participants in this particular documentary and filmed it over in black market newbie in black market, Nubian in Roxbury. And there's so many different like things within that whole like, can go wrong, will go wrong, and things like that within the production. But it was the first time that I really felt like in my, my own soul as a producer, and being very competent within that, that I'm like, Oh no, we can solve these problems very effectively. We can have these plans here. We bring together all of these, like, great people here, from, like, the people who are operating the cameras, from our scenic designer, from our audio engineer, and all of these things. And really, like, we're able to lean on our, our own community resources as well, and saying, like, hey, like, these are some of the cameras that we could bring here, some of the space that we can do here. And essentially what we did is that we filmed with 11 people in the room… talking about how do men show love, and what gets in the way of that? And how can we get to a better place where we can express these things, where we can show these things? And not only is this a documentary that's just like, oh yeah, like, this just depicts like, one particular group, because, again, a lot of them were meeting that same day. But it was also, it was always meant as a tool to actually inspire more circles and actually inspire, like, more deeper conversations on these things. Because Kim, when I tell you, like, during the actual filming of it, like, there are times where I feel like I had to even, like, hold back tears, to an extent too, because a lot of people were coming for at this, at different stages of grief or different periods of emotions within themselves, as they were going as they were in the space and talking about the things that they were dealing with as a man, as a nonbinary person, as like somebody who was queer and somebody who's black, his painting, like, whatever it was, right? And it was just such a beautiful conversation that I remember after we, like, broke down all the lights and packed up all the stuff from the U haul and all that stuff, I remember, like, talking to James and Gio, who was also part of the Boston new dreamer project, and saying, like, I don't want to leave the space right now, like, like, the conversation was just so amazing in here that there is a very palpable energy that I don't want to leave right and they were like, Well, Raysam, you're leaving with the hard drive, so you'll be able to replay the conversation as much as you want. And even within that, we were just like, Okay, we came and edited the documentary, initially as a 230 part installments with an intentional intermission where we invite the audience, the people who have come through a couple of these private screenings that we had in Boston, to actually like, examine these things. And actually we were giving them questions, we were giving them prompts and all these things. And one of the things that reviews that I got from a friend that I invited out to this particular screening was Ray Sam, if you told me that I would be in a room with strangers and have to talk about my feelings, I wouldn't have come. And it, it was, it was so great. Because I remember like that after Part One and Part Two had, like concluded, and she told me that she was just like, No. But like, watching part one really did inspire me to say, like, Hey, this is even, like, my vantage point within this, and then even within, like myself or herself, like knowing, like, how she relates to her brothers, how she relates to her fathers and other like men within the life. And I think that a very great like, again, when you're doing and marketing, like documentaries and other things like that, like, you're like, Oh, well, who's your film for everybody? And it's just like, yes, but like, like, let's actually see who we can like, make like more impact with, and one or maybe not necessarily more, but. But we're essentially, like, meaningful impact and saying like, hey, we have a group of people that we are targeting, and we want to show them that there is another way outside that is able to, like, retain your masculinity and really, like define it. Once we take away the power dynamic from it, once we take away the idea of, oh no, you can only do this, or I can only do this just because I am a man and not excavate anything else within that nature there. So, yeah, that's Loving Men.
Kim Meninger
Is there, like, was there anything that really stood out to you, that maybe you thought, you thought you knew going into it, and then, really, after you were in it, thought, wow, I thought, you know, I have a whole new way of thinking about, you know, I mean, obviously you've grown you're a man, right? You've grown up with masculinity. But when we think about it, there's been so much talk about toxic masculinity and healthy masculinity, what? And just, there's, there's obviously a lot of men suffering right now, and so just knowing that these groups are out there just brings me so much hope. But I'm curious, you know, as a man who, and you talked about not wanting to leave the energy of the space, like, what, what did it feel like personally for you, And was there anything that shifted for in your own experience as a result?
Rayviation
Yeah, I think for me, it's the honesty. It was really being able to end the vulnerability with it as well. Because I'm watching 11 people just talk about, like, some of the most harrowing experiences of their life, of like their experience with sexual harm, or people who posted them, who have died of suicide, or anything of that nature, and especially like when I'm going around and like talking about these things, like, I feel like it would be hypocritical if like, some of these things within, like my own past didn't come up right, or even like my way of how I relate to my older brother, or my older brother, I'm the oldest my younger brothers, right? And my father and other things of that nature. And it was, it was a thing where even, even between, like, that time, like, of course, like me and my I grew up with my dad and all that good stuff. And like, there's always those periods of time where we don't see eye-to-eye. And like, once you come into adulthood, or I'm like, Okay, well, why are you doing things like this? Or why do you have these particular beliefs? And like, we've had, like, static before, but I remember, like, you know, we the first time. And this is gonna sound like, very like, oh, male, masculine, whatever. But like, I'm not much of a beer guy, but, and my dad grew up like, loving Guinness, and I was just like, You know what, Dad, like, let's put a Guinness. Why not? Like, let's do the thing. And then we were actually able to bond over that. And then I told him, like, it was, like, the last day of his visit there, which had already been, like, such a fantastic trip otherwise. But I was just like, yeah, like, It would really mean a lot to me if we could actually watch the documentary together, right? And I actually got a much deeper insight about his father beforehand, and like, how he feels like he wasn't able to really, like, ever, like, measure up in that particular regard too, because he's and again, he's a great guy, big community member. Like, like, truly, like people like, hold him up as, like, a model citizen within, like, Lowell, and then like, contribute into that way. But just like, seeing that particular vulnerability and being like, Oh no. Like, there's still so much more I wish that I can do and do in that regard. And like being able to get to a deeper place of understanding with me, myself, personally, with my father, especially there's, there's one particular thing that sticks out to me in the documentary was one of our participants had said that, like, through being in these men's groups, like he was able to say I love you to his dad first, before his dad ever said it to him. And again, this is a person in I believe he's their late 20s or mid 30s or so, right? And, you know, I think, like, if I had to, like, sum it up with like, one, like, last like, tangible thing from here is I definitely say I love you more. Oh, you know what I mean. And that's, that's just across the board, whether it's a neighbor, whether there's different forms for it, but like, there's definitely a lot more love that I feel is palpable. And being able to name that and say, like, yeah, like, let's, let's normalize that, let's bring in some more around.
Kim Meninger
Wow, I that's so it, it's so moving to hear you say that. And I think about this from a somewhat of a selfish perspective raising boys. I don’t have girls. I have two boys, 10…
Rayviation
Godspeed of one of one of three boys like yes, Godspeed.
Kim Meninger
Well, and I feel, I feel a personal responsibility to raise them to be self-aware, to, to have healthy masculinity and also to feel safe enough to feel the full expression of their you know, feelings and emotional experience. And I just It breaks my heart to think about the stifling of emotion that men go through because they don't feel like they can safely or that it is socially acceptable to be vulnerable. So the idea of these groups is just so inspiring to me, and I just wish everyone had access to them, or was willing to participate in them.
Rayviation
And they can honestly, like, I think that that's like, part of the goal that we have, and it's why even the documentary itself, like we were going through all of the different options of like, how we could go about distributing it, because, again, we're trying to make sure that this was something that was accessible and that improves, whether they were established or trying to newly established themselves. Could start after watching a documentary like this. And of course, like, as we're building the website, as we're putting the tools together, those are some of the resources that we actually have. We do have a watch guide that actually ushers people through the process. Because some of these, like, like, some people are like, Oh, I've never even, like, considered, like, what patriarchy is, or, like, how it might affect infects me and all these things. And I think that that's also part of, like, the, the dual pronged effort that needs to be made here, right? Because again, again, as you said to like, I think that like, especially as a mother to boys, and like, really wanting to make sure that, like, they're not replicating harm or doing anything of that nature, but also, like, able to protect themselves and do things like that. Because I think that one of the more like unspoken parts of it is that so much of just like, the thing that we brand is, like toxic masculinity and like, oh, like what you do in a board meeting, or how you present yourself on a call, or how you present yourself in public transportation, like whatever it is, is rewarded if you are a man or perceived as a man, so you are getting nothing but incentive structures to just keep on to that path. And you might not even realize that these are some of the things that you're hurting from or even and another story I'll tell about an audience member who's a deep friend of mine, my longest friend from childhood, who actually came and saw the documentary. And this is a friend who we've, we've had, like, so many back-and-forths and so many like arguments about things that are just like, we're just come from, like, different places, you know. I mean, just like, in terms of, like, compasses and whatnot, and we ask each other, like, why are we friends? Why? Why? Why do we keep this thing going? And we know why we ended up, like, doing this thing where we're holding each other accountable and holding space and all that. But it was a thing for him, like, um, I was frankly like, oh my god, um, I'm not sure how he's going to react to some of the, the content of this, of the documentary here. And, you know, I think, like much to my surprise, and I think that this is part of the thing where he was just like, No, I loved it, in fact. And in fact, like, these are actually naming some of the things that I've been feeling but have been attributing to X, Y and Z problem over here. Or it's the reason why social media is the way that it is. It's the reason why I perceive women the way that I am, and all of these things and like, have been able to really excavate that inner work like, so I don't know, I think that there's like a danger, of course, into like, having some of these circles that are, like, more preaching into the choir, and it's just like, No, it's about, it's not just about having a tight circle. It's also about how we expand the circle at the same time. So I'm, I'm just very, very glad, grateful that we have the film on a platform like Kinema, so that way we can actually do these things, both in person, virtually on demand. Like, truly, truly, truly, can't wait to see, like, how far we can make that circle.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, yeah and I, I think you just said something really important there too, which, and I tie this back in my mind to the loneliness epidemic, right? And I think men struggle with that even more so than women, because women tend to be more emotionally vulnerable with their friends. They don't have all your eggs in one person's basket, right? [Yes, yes.] So, you know, we've seen, unfortunately, a lot of bad things happen when men go searching for a sense of belonging and a sense of community in these unhealthy spaces, right? And so these men's groups seem like such a positive and healthy way to get that sense of connection. But it can also imagine if they're not properly structured, structured or guided, they could also become toxic in and of themselves, right?
Rayviation
Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, I'm you're not wrong.
Kim Meninger
So do you, you mentioned the Watch Guide? Do you also give guidance for you know how to how to maintain a group in a way that is sort of healthy. And you know, I can also imagine that things get vulnerable. It can be scary for people too. And you know, these aren't therapists, and you know, people are right practicing new skills that they haven't used, or are their best practice. Practices, I guess is my question for people who may be considering these types of groups that would help make them feel safer and, and give them some guidance along the way.
Rayviation
Sure, sure. Honestly, my number one thing, and this might sound a little silly, but have, have food, have a food spread, right, like, like that is that's quite literally, like, during, like, the production of the documentary, that nobody just got their call sheet and they're like, yep, that's your chair. Go ahead. We, we catered. We actually did have like stuff from like, around, like the Roxbury neighborhood there, and we all broke bread. Essentially, we all had our exchange right before it. And I think that that was a good thing that helped, like, round people sitting together at a table. And of course, I'm sure that you could also relate as a mother. I'm not sure what your family practices and traditions and dynamics are, but like in my house, it is hard getting everybody at the same table outside of holidays, right? But getting back to that tradition is literally like, hey, like, Can you pass me this? Oh, this is really good. Like, having these kind of conversations that can naturally come about is fantastic, right? I think leaving room for the disagreements to happen is also, like, another really big thing there too, right? I think that there is a certain kind of thing where it's just like, okay, yes, we're all agreeing here. We're all have this and that, but like, if we don't feel like we're in a safe space to actually challenge an opinion, or be able to say, like, hey, well, this is actually, like, my vantage point on this, or as somebody with sisters without sisters, like, what, whatever it is like people are coming in with different points of views. And I think that like, actually being able to, like, leave space for that challenging. Because I think that we're, we're in a very like, boundary happy culture. We're like, oh, that's in…
Kim Meninger
Yes, that's right. Like…
Rayviation
And of course, like, there, there is something to be said about protecting your peace. But also, if these groups are really going to function in the way that we want them to, right, that actually adds value to community and actually has community care and whatnot. But, and it's not just like, hey, can you watch my kid? Or, Hey, can you drive me to the airport? It's like, Hey, I don't feel safe with my partner right now. I'm afraid for my life, for his life, for their like, whatever it is, right? And how can we actually go in and intervene, like, as safely as we can and do these kinds of things? Because, again, like, you know, especially within, like, certain communities as well too, like they when police come, who knows what's going to happen? Who knows how that actually escalates things? Who knows how that's actually going to impact like, the person that really needs this is being hurt by this other by product of the patriarchy here, right? So how can we also be equipped and to not just like, you know, saying kind words with our pillows and all that kind of stuff. Like, there are periods of time where it's just like, hey, we do need to relate to each other in this way. We do need to have, like, these kind of boundaries here. But also I'm challenging you because I love you right, because I want to see you do better. I want to care for you in that way. So, I think that those would be my, my two sound bites for you.
Kim Meninger
I love it. I love it. And I think you're absolutely right. I mean, one of my favorite things that you said, favorite things that you said was talking about the friend that you disagree with, and why are you friends? And I just think that we live in a culture now where we don't disagree, we just shut people off, right? And we go into our own corners, and we just crystallize our own beliefs, and we don't have spaces that are safe for us to just understand why somebody might have a different perspective on something than we than we do, right? And so I think you're right, and I think about that in the context of a men's group, but in the context of any place where humans gather to have space to respectfully disagree with each other, and that's really how we, we deepen connection too. Is if it's always superficial, pretending that we agree with each other, right? Then you don't feel the same sense of connection to somebody as if you actually have an honest discussion. And you get to where you get to know each other in a deeper way.
Rayviation
100%. 100% they're there with you.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, yeah. So, oh my gosh, this has been such a phenomenal conversation. And I really want everybody to watch the documentary, to really think about what your, your core message is. So for people watching, who want to find the documentary, who want more of you? Where can they go?
Rayviation
Sure, so if you're looking for the loving men documentary, I would say go over to kinema.com and then right over in that search bar press type in loving men in in spirit of the inclusive prices and pricing and whatnot, it is actually you can rent the film, and it is a Pay-What-You-Can rental. You could pay anywhere from $2 to $20 like whatever you truly feel like is valuable for the film. And also you can gift it to somebody as well. So if you wanted to even buy the film on behalf of a friend. Send a cousin or a group of people and all that stuff too. Kinema also allows for that to happen. And if you're looking for me, then you can search on LinkedIn. I'll use my government name. In this case, you go and type in Raysam Donkoh-Halm that's spelled R-A-Y-S-A-M. I should be one of the few Raysam's out there that are doing a thing, and also on Instagram, if you would also love to connect in that regard as well, then you can go to my handle at Rayviation dot rocks, and that's where you can keep up with all the fun things that I do, living as a creative in the city of Chicago.
Kim Meninger
Wonderful. Well, I will make sure all of those links are in the show notes. Thank you so much for being here and for all the work that you're doing. It's really inspiring, and I'm so grateful that you are willing to share it with us.
Rayviation
Truly, truly, it's been an honor, Kim. And also, I would love to even give to you the documentary as well.
Kim Meninger
Oh, thank you. I would love that that would really, really be incredibly generous of you. And I would love to watch it with my kids and my husband. All the men in my life.
Rayviation
Yes, truly, wide and far. Thank you so much.
Kim Meninger
Thank you.
