Less Stress. More Success
In this episode of The Impostor Syndrome Files, we talk about stress, intentionality and why doing more isn’t always the path to greater success. My guest this week is Trish Walker, executive coach, speaker and former president of home and services at Best Buy.
Trish shares how an unexpected “lifequake” led her to step away from a long and successful corporate career and reconsider what she wanted next. Here we explore the importance of listening to our own signals, asking for help and trusting ourselves when life doesn’t go according to plan.
We also challenge the high-achiever belief that our value is measured by how much we do. Trish shares why slowing down can create greater clarity, focus and confidence, and how small shifts can help us move through work and life with less stress and more success.
About My Guest
As a former Fortune 100 executive, Trish Walker guides leaders to perform at their highest levels and achieve Less Stress. More Success™. By blending C-suite executive experience with mindfulness and neuroscience, she translates insight into practical, real-world strategies. She helps leaders think more clearly, make better decisions and strengthen performance to elevate leadership in the moments that matter.
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Transcript
Kim Meninger
Welcome, Trish. I've been looking forward to this conversation for a long time now. I'm excited that we're finally here, and I would love to start by inviting you to tell us about yourself.
Trish Walker
Yes, me too. I'm so glad we went on that walk and stumbled upon this opportunity for us to talk on this. So, so let's see. I guess I'll start with more the beginning of my career. So I studied technology, computer science in college. It was a brand new subject in high school, and the reason I tell the high school story is because it's a great example of having people around you that are looking out for you. So my guidance counselor had said to me, "Hey, there's a new class, you know, senior year in high school. It's called computer science, and you know, I think you might like it. And I took that class, and that class sent me on my whole trajectory of my career. I loved it, absolutely loved it. So then I decided that's what I was going to study in college. It's what I looked for on all my college visits on what their program looked like. Again, these were all pretty new programs at the time. I studied in college. It's what helped me get my job at Accenture, and so just having people know you and being vulnerable about yourself, so that other people can really know you, is a great way to get people to help you in life, in any aspects of life. And so I I started at Accenture. It was Anderson Consulting at the time, so it was part of an accounting firm. It was a compute was like their their technology division so long ago, and absolutely loved it. Loved consulting. I loved learning constantly new things. That's why I was attracted to the job, and just sort of traveled with that view of not trying to like get to a promotion or get to a spot, but more what are things that I can learn? What do I know already, and then what do I want to add to that? And how can I use what I know already to add to something new? And that's pretty much just how I traveled my whole career at Accenture. I mean, I was there, you know, 29 years in a job that I thought I was going to, you know, be there for two years and then go back and get my MBA. Never did that, and absolutely loved it. I worked in retail for the majority of those years in a million different capacities, and over those years, I got married. I had two children, and you know, just really loved what I was doing, and always, always, always learning, always getting super uncomfortable, and thrown into things that I didn't know, but I sort of had to pretend a little bit that I knew with the client, and then go figure out how to really know it, and then learned how to say I don't know, and bringing in experts that do know, and that you know it was just an amazing career. The last 10 years of that career, I was at Best Buy as my client, and it was at the time one of the largest clients that Accenture had worldwide, and absolutely loved my work there. And obviously, when you're there for so long, and you're you know doing so much work for them, you become really close with the executive team, and that led to Hubert Joly, who was the CEO of Best Buy at the time. He had brought in. He had been brought in for turnaround transformation kind of thing. Was when Amazon was like everybody thought all retail was going to die and Amazon was going to kill everybody. And he asked me to leave Accenture and come over to Best Buy to head the Geek Squad, the homework that they were doing, basically all the customer-facing functions and P&Ls that accept the stores-and so I did that. I reported to him and was the president of Services and Home from 2016 to 2020, and as I like to say, I didn't leave corporate America because I had a plan to leave. I left because life interrupted my plans. So there was a life quake for me in 2019. I love that term. I have not did not make that term up. It's somebody else's term, but my dad, my sister, and my mom all died within a couple years of each other. And in 2019 was when my mom died. She was last one to die, and I just knew something was a little amiss. Like I didn't process it the same way I process the other deaths, so I asked for a mental health leave of absence from my role at Best Buy, and I had a wonderful colleague who offered to sort of take over my role while I was on my leave of absence, and when I came out of that leave of absence, I realized for a lot of different reasons it was time to let that particular part of my career go and be more in Boston because I live in Boston, but but Best Buy was in Minneapolis, so I traveled Monday through Friday my whole career, pretty much, and so after that, I didn't really know what I was going to do. So it was kind of like a pause. I sort of say I had the success, then I had a life quake, then I paused, and then I pivoted, which is why you and I have met, and why I'm here today. And that pivot really was a journey of myself, and just discovering a lot of things about myself through learning again. And so I went through certifications for meditation, for Ayurveda Health, for life coaching, yoga, like all of these kind of things to get closer to the inside of myself to really know what I wanted to do next, and that led me to create my daily dash, which is the company that I use to do life coaching, executive coaching, leadership development, meditation teaching, all all of those kinds of things to just help people, you know, live a life, a successful life, however they define that, with the least amount of stress possible, and so that's where I am now.
Kim Meninger
Wow! Thank you for taking us through that because I think that it's a fascinating arc, right? How, how you ended up here where you are? And there's so many questions that I have about the Accenture time in particular, and how you came from there, an environment which I imagine was very stressful, to now this focus on minimizing stress and living this more holistic life. And so, do like I'm trying to think about how to phrase this question because I'm sure the answer is that there was a lot of stress there. But like, how much of your what you do today is informed by the life you had back then, and like, what do you wish you knew then... [yeah] know now.
Trish Walker
It's funny. I think about this question a lot, just on my just to for my own personal development. So I was never a super stressed out person. So it's not like I was like this burnt out, you know, running around crazy, missing everything in my family, and then being mad that I missed it, kind of thing. I was pretty organized and pretty clear that I did an interview for Working Mother magazine when I was at Accenture, and I said in the interview, "You can have. They asked the question, "Can you have it all? And which you know they never ask the men that question, and so and my answer was, "Yes, you can have it all. You just can't have it all in one day. So that was kind of a natural inclination of mine to look like to zoom out and be like, okay, what is it that I want, and what's what's the most important things? What are those big rocks, and really make sure that I focus as much energy as I can on the big rocks, and then fit in the little pebbles around it, you know. So you know, as a family, we would, you know, I would say to the kids like, "What's the most important thing for me to be home for? And I'd be home for those things, and I'd miss a lot of other things. But that was, you know, that was the plan, and so I kind of was like, "That's the plan. My husband was a stay-at-home dad, so there was a parent there, and that's that was our decision. Like we wanted one parent home, and so you know we worked around it. We would constantly adjust, and I adjusted a lot at work. Actually, when I had my daughter, I I had no problems. I had my daughter. I went back full time, like that. Everything sort of just was rolling when I had. My son. 18 months later, I was not a happy camper about going back to work. I cried every day on the way home. The leadership changed when I was on maternity leave, so I didn't really know my new leader. Whereas I knew like all the time my leaders grow, you know, the previous years, and it was just I felt very uncertain, you know, insecure about what I was doing, and so I had to go through like a real process of well, what are my options? You know, I could take a leave of absence. I could, you know, go part time. I could quit, you know, and like really sit down and figure those things out, but at that time I was the breadwinner, the only person bringing in you know money into the house, so I couldn't just willy nilly make decisions. We had to be really really careful about the decisions we made, and I wound up eventually going part time, and that worked super well for me. I went four days a week. Then I went three days a week. Then I went back to four, and then I went back full time for this client that like begged me to come back to do some work. Did that, then went back to four days a week. Then went back. I mean, back and forth, back and forth for several years, just each time evaluating what I really needed, and then when I went to Best Buy as the you know as the lead on that account, I went when I was part time, and then I got offered to take the lead role over, and I said that's not a that's not a four day a week role, so I have to be ready for that. And at that point, you know, I was ready, and I the biggest thing I learned from my part-time adventure was how to say no, because in the beginning I was working full time and getting paid for part-time.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, that's what I worry about with part time jobs for women.
Trish Walker
Is that yeah, yeah, and even when we do say no, we go well. You know, I have to be here for, and it would justify everything. And I learned how to just not do that because once you start giving a reason why, then they start making excuses, and it becomes a whole thing. And so, you know, I'm not available on Friday. That's it. Nobody needs to know why. It's not really anybody's business. It's only your business on what's going to work for you and what's important for you and for you to own it, and that was the biggest takeaway I had in, in, in that part of my life.
Kim Meninger
Can I press you a little bit on that too? Because I think one of the things that you talked a little bit earlier too about your guidance counselor supporting you, and I think that there's a way in which we maybe as women, but I think this applies to to men as well. Is this idea of almost like heroically taking on the burden ourselves and not really not asking for help, not not taking support from other people, and so in order to get to a point where you were able to work this flexible schedule, you must have had conversations with people about it, right? Like, how was that for you? Did did it scare you to even talk about? Like, how did that even come up?
Trish Walker
Yeah, the reason it came up is because emotionally, I just wasn't handling the full-time thing, so I had to just be like, "I got to do something. Like my body, everything's telling me that just it's not going to work like it did with my daughter. And I guess maybe now that I'm talking about this, I've never thought about this, but maybe that feeling was the same feeling I had when I realized after my mom died that it wasn't going to work the same way as my sister and my father. Like I knew my body knew everything knew in my body that this wasn't you weren't going to be able to push through this, that you had to take a step back. So, so yeah, I you know the concept of a board of directors was a concept that was introduced to me a long time ago, and I absolutely love that concept. And I encourage everybody who doesn't have a board of directors, personal board of directors, to create one. And every person on your board of directors has a different role, has a different angle on your life, you know, so that you can get a lot of different opinions when you have big decisions like this, and so you know that's kind of what I did when I decided to go part time. Is I talked to a lot of different people, and I had a boss who was amazing. He he knew lots of women that were doing things differently within Accenture that I didn't know, and he set up meetings with all of them and helped me sort of navigate. You know, okay, that person's doing that. That person's doing that, and, and so knowing that you have that, even just knowing you have that board. Allows you to actually get uncomfortable and say this isn't working, and what am I going to do? And I'm going to sit in this discomfort because I'm going to, you know, I'm going to get all this help. I'm going to take it all in, but then I'm going to listen to my own self, not any one particular person, and figure out what's going to work for me. And in that case, for my husband and my kids and all of That, so I think that that's what kind of gave me a little bit of confidence to do that, and then it wasn't something for me. It wasn't something that I felt super uncomfortable with because I grew up with two older sisters and an older brother, and they just always and my parents, but they always gave me confidence. And so I I tell this story a lot too. When I was really little, I was learning to ride a bike, and I was so excited about this bike, and so my brother took me out. My brother's 10 years older than me. He took me out, and he's holding the back of the seat of the bike. And he's okay. Now we we lived on this big long block, so I could just ride all the way down to the end of the block on the sidewalk. And he's like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna run next to you and hold the seat. And so I rode the whole way, and I got to the end, and I turned around, and he was still standing at our house. I rode the whole way, and that was like a huge. It's so weird to have such a huge lesson at whatever, however old I was, four years old or five years old or something. That you know, other people have more confidence in you than you do a lot of times, and so if you can kind of channel what would the other people say, and I use that story quite often just in my own head, like why am I scared of riding this bike? I can do this, you know, and so just go do it. So that's another thing is just know that you have so much more strength inside of you than you think you do. Like we're amazing as humans, and just really channeling that and being like, and if I make the wrong decision, I know I can do whatever I need to do to then you know make a different decision, and just having that confidence that you can handle whatever outcome comes from the decisions that you made.
Kim Meninger
I love that. That's my definition of confidence. I always say that confidence is not about being fearless. Fearless fear will always be there. Confidence is trusting that you can handle whatever happens, right? And a big part of that for me is a theme that you have been mentioning throughout here, which is learning, right? And I think that's such an important frame around this because people feel like, oh, I'm I'm gonna fail or something...
Trish Walker
Yeah.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, catastrophic is gonna happen, as opposed to thinking of it as, yeah, I've I learned to ride a bike. I wasn't born riding a bike, right? I, I learned all of the things that got me here, and I can continue to learn.
Trish Walker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that I want to come back to the learning thing. I think that the other thing, when you ask the question about like how how did I do that, and asking for help and kind of the difference between you know being the hero and like getting everything done. I still try to be the hero a lot, and it's a constant it's a constant thing for me to keep unwrapping, keep unwrapping, keep getting deeper into myself, and it ties to the learning point because we think of learning a lot of times about learning skills, learning about other people, but learning about yourself and really understanding. Oh, I had that mindset. Oh, I'm trying to fix something that's not my business to fix. Oh, I'm trying to be the hero when you know my friends are all offering to help, and this like this happened three years ago. My husband had a stroke. He's fine now. He had a stroke, pretty you know bad one. He couldn't really do anything for a while, talk or anything. And so you know I was in the hospital with him. My my kids are in their 20s, so they were whatever 19 and 22 at the time, or 19 and 20 at the time, and I tried to just do everything. And my son was the one that said, "Mom, all your friends want to help. You need to breathe and like get organized like you normally do, and go tell them everything you want them to do. And he's like, "It's you know, it seems like the food, and you know that's going to be the hardest part. So just go ask them to deliver food every day for a week, you know, just to get some breathing room. And so you still get stuck in those. Patterns of trying to be the hero, you know, and that's this. A lot of what I do today is is the same work that I do myself all the time. But helping others do that work is really figuring out where are those patterns that's stuck, that's causing them stress, that's getting in the way of that successful life that they want, whatever their definition of of of a you know a good life looks like, and when you get stressed out, which obviously your husband having a stroke is stressful, and you don't you know use all your practices to keep bringing yourself back to the baseline, you lose sight of like asking for help or you know anything. It just the stress just takes over, and you know, and that's when it constantly is taking over, and a lot of times for no reason. That's when you get chronic illness, and you're sick, and everything else.
Kim Meninger
You know, it's so important what you're saying because I often think about high achievers, right? Those are the people listening to this conversation, they're the people who struggle most with what we're talking about, and I think for a long time, being a high achiever means doing more, not doing less, right? And so I think when we are in a, in a situation where we're struggling, the question always becomes, what else can I do? Not how can I subtract. And so I love that you're tying this too to learning because I think that a lot of times it's like oh I need to have another degree if I want to get to the next level. I need to learn all as opposed to what you're saying of just look inward and really learn about yourself, right? Like, what are my patterns? What, what? How do I manage things? What are my strengths? What are what are my triggers? All of these different things that are so important to understand if we want to be able to feel more in control of our lives.
Trish Walker
Yeah, yeah. I love the. I don't know if it's the exact quote, but it's you know when Michelangelo sculpted David, you know he was like, I didn't create David. David was inside. I stripped away all of the stuff to actually expose that, you know, and like that concept is just so cool to me. It's like, what can I move aside? What can I take away to actually allow my inner, true, perfect self to shine? And you know, so you're the sculptor of your life, and you know, a lot of times it's it's taking away. So yeah, I love, love, love that concept.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, and I think that in order to do that, we have to slow down. And I just don't think a lot of people feel like they have the luxury, quote unquote, of slowing down. And so I think you're a good one to offer this perspective because you've lived a really busy life, and so what would you say to people who really want to do what we're talking about, but feel like I don't know how I'm gonna?
Trish Walker
Yeah, I don't have time. I don't have time for that. You know, yeah. So I created a A presentation, interactive kind of workshopy thing called "Less Stress, More Success,” for exactly this reason, because everybody wants to do this. I mean, most people want to do this, but they just don't feel like they have time to do it. But it doesn't require you to, you know, sit on your mat and meditate 30 minutes every morning. There are so many easy ways to bring yourself back down, tap into that parasympathetic nervous system that allows you to be less stressful, that allows you to have that clarity and that focus that you can do throughout the day that take literally no time that you can do them while you're doing something else you can do them for 30 seconds, but the thing is that's most important is that if you're not aware that you're getting stressed, if you don't understand your stress signals, then these tools you don't know when to apply them. You know. So what what I talk about is like, what is your stress signal? Get get really familiar with your body. Learn about your body. So like me, my shoulders are up like this. You know, or my breathing gets real shallow when I get stressed, right? So when you start to actually feel that, then you're okay. You know, um, or you know, if you're acting, you know, really quick and short and impatient. So I'm impatient when I get stressed. So it's not just your physical body; it's the way. You act if you're micromanaging when you're leading, you know that's usually a sign of stress. So you got to get to know your own, and then once you know them, then it's like, okay, what are the little things that I can do throughout the day? And it's crazy how quickly these things work. Breathing, you know, just being able to when you're stressed out, you want to just, you know, exhale more than you inhale. So if you're walking in a meet, you know, to the bathroom from your office or from one meeting to the next or to your car, just being able to, you know, do that. I mean, and you can do that before. You can do that in a meeting. Nobody needs to know you're doing any of this, it doesn't need to be like you know, and just and, and I've taught like I I know that like I've taught this to lots of people through these presentations, and you know I get the feedback from them, but I started it with like my kids, you know, you know, and how to when they get stressed in a classroom or in a you know in a group of friends or at a party or whatever, these are the things you can do. Nobody needs to know you're doing them, and so little things like that, and even just like micro connections with someone, that will bring your stress down too. So if you're in a meeting, just smiling at somebody else, like just a smile, it creates all the happy hormones in you and the person you're smiling and connecting with. So you know there's all these little things that you can do throughout the day that are that do not require you to change much of your day. And if you start to do that, you'll notice that you'll be able to enter you know a new environment, a new you know whether you're entering from work to home or from home to work or from one meeting to the next, you're able to enter it with completely different energy.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, that is that's a really inspirational message because I do think that like my way of operating when I was in corporate was like, "All right, what like next credential is going to help me get through this, right? And I think that what you're talking about is it takes commitment and discipline, but it's relatively simple practices, right? That don't you don't have to carve out huge chunks of time from your schedule to be able to do?
Trish Walker
Yeah, and then you know connecting with that why like why do I want to make these changes? You know, so you you if you're aware of this stress, but then you're like, okay, change is hard, so we have to connect to something deeper inside ourselves to make the change stick. So it's you know my whole career I did transformational change as a consultant and then as the leader at Best Buy, and you know I was always about sustainable change, which takes a little longer, you know, but it sticks, it stays around, and so you know, that's another thing we do in this workshop is like ask people to connect to what is it you know that they want. They want do they want better relationships in their life, but they can't have them because they're so stressed out at work and they stressed out when they come home, and so they just act irritably and blah, blah, blah. Or do they want better health? Do they want to be able to, you know, lose weight, or you know, you know, do something with their heart because they have familial heart disease, or you know, diabetes and things like that? I want to fix my health in some way, and so these breasts throughout the day that don't interrupt any. I can still get as much done as I need to. In fact, I get more done because I'm I'm working with clarity about what it is, and I'm not spinning, spinning, spinning on stress. You know, I'm able to actually be much clearer about things. You get more work done that way, and that's I think the biggest thing for people to really understand, [yeah,] do less, accomplish more.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, that's a, that is a paradigm shift.
Trish Walker
Yeah.
Kim Meninger
For people who have measured their value on how much they do.
Trish Walker
Yeah.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, you know.
Trish Walker
But the less doesn't mean that they they they won't they they most likely will provide more value. They most likely will achieve more in their total life by doing less. So even just that phrase gets us to say less. No, then I won't be achieve, achieve, achieve, achieve. But actually, the doing less actually allows you to get to where you want to go. I mean, you know, if you really listen to people who have achieved a lot, whether it's athletes or whether it's entrepreneurs or whether it's CEOs, they will say the same thing. They will say that you have to slow down to speed up. It's like measure. It's like measure twice, cut once. [Yeah.] So you know that slowing down and that ability to tap into the energy that is not stress energy. It's clarity energy. It's focus. That's the energy that's going to allow you to move forward.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, yeah, I I think that's really powerful too because I like to remind people that being busy is not the same as being productive. [Yes, yes.] You know, and I think that sometimes we treat all activity as equal as opposed to being able to say like focus on what matters more.
Trish Walker
Yeah, yes, and we define activity as movement, and sometimes the activity is sitting still.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, yeah.
Trish Walker
Yeah. And if you're not able to really be still, and just allow like these new ideas and these new learnings and these new things to come in, then you're not actually moving forward.
Kim Meninger
Yeah.
Trish Walker
So you know, just being able to be quiet for a little bit and, and allow yourself to listen to the signals, whether it's a you know a big strategic idea. So I always had a million things come to me in the shower when I worked, like a million. And the people that worked for me would be like, "Oh my God, how long are you in the shower this morning?” Like I'd come in and have like my whole whiteboard filled with stuff, and then call them in and be like, "Okay, how can we do all this?” And so, you know the there's like a whole lot of science behind why that happens, right? You've woken up, you've cleared your glymphatic system, you've cleared all the things from your body and, and your mind, and then you if you know take a shower first thing, you're you're in the shower and you're clear, and all you're doing is showering. You know you're not like there's nothing productive about that, you know. It's just like it's just there, [mindless, yeah]. And so yeah, so you have this openness that allows all of this stuff to come to you. So that that was kind of fun. I like what's kind of fun about what I've been doing is I had certain practices and things that I did, or things that just I did naturally, like it wasn't it wasn't as you know intentional. I just sort of naturally worked certain ways, and I'm learning now why the some ways work really well, and then why the other ways got me so tripped up, and so just really being able to understand that and understanding. Oh, okay, that's why that's important. So then it doesn't have to be a shower, you know. It can just be after you know 10 minutes of meditation where you've allowed yourself some stillness. Then things come up, and you're like, oh, wow, okay, now I know what I want to do. Now I'm clear on what I want to do about this, or what I want to do about that, or what kind of conversation I want to have with my husband, or whether I want to take this trip or not. You know, it just-it's amazing that you're able to create that space, as opposed to before it would just kind of happen, and I didn't really understand why. And now I can have much more agency about creating the space for those things to happen.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, yeah. I think about a lot how we are wired to be creatures of habit because our brains are always prioritizing efficiency. So things we can do mindlessly are great. We don't have to think about them, but that means we're very reactive and not very intentional. And what you're describing it requires some intentionality to really think about the choices you're making and whether the way you've set up your life is actually working for you.
Trish Walker
Yeah, and you know, like I said, like I did that intentionally with what activities I was going to be with my kids or things like that, but the rest of it was not intentional. And really, most of your day should be intentional if you want to have it focused. And you know, you want to. Now, it also was intentional to say things come up in the day. Yeah, that's right. And so you can't get stuck on it had to be this way, but you go into things with intentionality, and then you adjust when they come up. And it's like I mean, all professional athletes, all you know, athletes will say the same thing: they go in with a game plan, but they know that it's never ever going to be that game planned. So don't get upset when it doesn't go that way.
Kim Meninger
That's right.
Trish Walker
But when when life happens, you know, like I said, you know, I didn't leave corporate America with a plan. You know, I got life interrupted. All my plans interrupted. You, if you expecting the plans to be interrupted, and. Some way, shape, or form. Then, when it happens, you're not so clinging to. Oh my God, this is stressful. It's the worst thing that ever happened. How could this have happened? You're like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, that happened.
Kim Meninger
Yes.
Trish Walker
Yeah. Okay. Now's the time. It's happening now. You know, a silly little example that is, I married my niece. You know, I was the officiant for her wedding, and you know, I had a whole script and, and I practiced a lot and made sure I could do it. I'm real, I'm pretty good speaker, but I'm not very good at like actually saying the words that are on the page. I usually just stuff comes out of my mouth, so I practice, practice, practice, and within like the first three sentences, I messed something up, and I said, "Oh, good! I'm glad I got that out of the way.” And then I moved on, and everybody at the wedding thought it was planned that way. My my nephew, her brother was like, "I thought that was a plan, and then I realized, "Oh, I don't think it was like she just like just flowed, you know. And so it's a simple example. It could have flustered me and like got me off on everything. And I was like, okay, you know, it's a wedding. I'm here. I love them. They're not expecting perfection. And so keep going.
Kim Meninger
Yeah. Oh, I love that. I think we could all use a little bit of that, and we put so much pressure on ourselves. And most people aren't paying that close attention, or they're not judging in the way that we think they are.
Trish Walker
Yeah, they don't know. They don't know what your plan was.
Kim Meninger
Yes, that's right. That's right. Oh my gosh, Trish, I could keep going and going. There's so much here, I know. But for people listening who want more of you and your work, where can they find you?
Trish Walker
So they can find me on LinkedIn at Patricia Walker. I have a YouTube channel called My Daily Dash that has all meditations, Breathing exercises, you know things like that. So if they're looking for short things, most of them are pretty short, easy to sort of incorporate. My website is my daily, and then the actual symbol dash, and then the word dash, and they can sign up for my newsletter there, which is every other week, and my Instagram is my underscore daily underscore dash. So whichever channel or medium or whatever they're interested in, they can do that. I the, the newsletter is it's a short newsletter. It's not like a heavy read. You know, it's it's short. It has some great resources in it, and it's every other week organized around one word. So, like I think last last week's was clutter. It could be freedom, just one word, and then some some things around it, and then some resources. So it's not like overbearing.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, I love it. I think it's great. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I'll make sure those links are in the show notes. And thank you so much for being here.
Trish Walker
Yes, thanks for having me. This was great. So good to just chat with you.
